[Interview with the Ramseys on the Today Show; Date = Mar 24, 2000; Source = Justice Watch Forum]

Katie Couric: Do you still have your own investigative team in place? And who's on that team?

John Ramsey: We've got a number of experts that have volunteered their time. We have seasoned homicide investigators. But we don't want to tell the killer how we're pursuing him. But I can tell you that we are.

Katie Couric: How many people are on the case?

John Ramsey: It varies because some of them are volunteer; some of them are available as needed.

Katie Couric: Who's on it permanently? Could you tell me that?

John Ramsey: I - I

Katie Couric: Or how many are sort of

John Ramsey: I can't. It doesn't serve our purpose. I'll tell you this: That at some point, I will tell you all we've done. But now is not the time to do it.

Katie Couric: Who do you think did this? What is your working theory?

John Ramsey: We're looking for a male, a pedophile, and a pedophile that prefers female children, someone who owned a stun gun - or had access to a stun gun, someone who knew how to use a garrote and to tie the complicated knot that made that garrote up that was used to strangle my daughter.

Katie Couric: How did this profile come about?

John Ramsey: It came about not from me, but from listening to a lot of people - a number of people that are - that are experts in this field.

Katie Couric: Do you think this person was a stranger?

John Ramsey: I've been told that this person was either very angry with me or very jealous of me. And that - that was a heavy burden to bear. I don't know that I knew this person. We were in a small town. We had a fairly lar - we were a large employer in a small town.

Katie Couric: You pepper the book with fleeting references to some other people that you seem to question. You talk about Bill McReynolds, who played Santa at your Christmas party. You also mention his wife who, in a strange twist, wrote a play years before about a girl murdered in a basement.

John Ramsey: The point in the book was to clarify from our viewpoint why these people have been mentioned a lot in the media, and also to point out that there are legitimate leads that need to be followed.

Katie Couric: Apparently, this Santa Claus was investigated and - basically was dropped as a potential suspect.

John Ramsey: And that's - if that's true, then - then that's great. All I'm asking the police to do is investigate all of the leads that we have.

Katie Couric: You also mention Chris Wolfe, a total stranger whose girlfriend reported that he disappeared on Christmas night and was very agitated, rather - when he watched the news of the murder on TV.

JR: 'I can tell you when we first started looking at one particular lead early on - my reaction was, "This is it. This is the killer." And our investigator said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa." He'd say, "Don't do a Boulder Police on me. Don't rush to conclusions."'

John Ramsey: Uh-huh (affirmative).

Katie Couric: Why do you mention him?

John Ramsey: Because he'd been widely mentioned in the news. And we wanted to clarify the facts that we knew.

John Ramsey: I can tell you when - when we first started looking at - at one particular lead early on - my reaction was, "This is it. This is the killer." And our investigator said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa." He'd say, "Don't do a Boulder Police on me. Don't rush to conclusions."

Katie Couric: You also mention Jeff Merrick, a former employee of yours, John, who was very angry

John Ramsey: Uh-huh (affirmative).

Katie Couric: with you because he was fired?

John Ramsey: I had no reason to suspect Jeff, but it was in response to the - a question that police asked: "Can you think of anybody that was angry with you?"

Katie Couric: You also mention Glen Meyer, who was a boarder at your neighbor's house. He stopped by at your Christmas party

John Ramsey: Uh-huh (affirmative).

Katie Couric: just a few days before.

John Ramsey: I mention him because he's been mentioned also publicly. We didn't know Glen Meyer lived across the street from us until after JonBenet was murdered.

Katie Couric: In fairness to the people we've just mentioned, we just want to say the Boulder Police have told us that none of them are under suspicion at this time.

John Ramsey: Yeah. All I ask the Boulder Police to do is to look at every lead as objectively and as hard as they - as they've looked at us.

Katie Couric: I know this is difficult. But how do you think this crime was committed?

John Ramsey: We believe the killer was in the house while we were gone, was there when we came home, waited 'til we were asleep, silenced JonBenet with a stun gun while she slept, took her to the basement. And she died of strangulation.

Katie Couric: Do you think the intent was to kidnap her, and it went awry? Or was it always to

John Ramsey: We

Katie Couric: kill her?

John Ramsey: we've been told by experienced investigators that this is what it seems to be. It was a kidnapping that went terribly wrong.

Katie Couric: You believe the ransom note was genuine?

John Ramsey: Uh-huh (affirmative).

Katie Couric: Let me tell you some of the reasons people think the - the note was bogus. Some of the reasons that have been sort of floated: A kidnapper wouldn't spend all this time in a house writing a three page ransom note using a pad of paper that was in the house and a pen that was in the house that - I mean, just for time's sake

John Ramsey: The killer had hours. He had literally from four o'clock in the afternoon when we left to go to the White's until 5:30 the next morning when we woke up.

Katie Couric: $118,000? What a weird number.

Patsy Ramsey: That's what I said. I said, "If it's someone that has to do - that has a - something against the company, they would have asked for much more. You know, $1 million or something."

PR: 'When we find the killer, the killer's is going to match much closer than Patsy Ramsey. There are lots of pieces of handwriting that we have of other suspects that match much more closely than mine does.'

John Ramsey: That's a - it's

Patsy Ramsey: I mean

John Ramsey: a significant clue.

Patsy Ramsey: You know, they

John Ramsey: Somebody will know

Patsy Ramsey: what that means.

John Ramsey: that 118 means something to somebody.

Katie Couric: Patsy's handwriting could not be ruled out as the author of that ransom note.

Patsy Ramsey: When we find the killer, the killer's is going to match much closer than

Patsy Ramsey. There are lots of pieces of handwriting that we have of other suspects that match much more closely than mine does.

John Ramsey: This was a thought out, premeditated crime that was based, I believe, more on hate than it was money.

Katie Couric: So you believe you know this person?

John Ramsey: I can't imagine that I know this person. This person, I'm told, knows me?

Katie Couric: Let's address the mystery of the pineapple that was found in JonBenet's G.I. track. That's been a source of a lot of speculation about what she did when you all got home from that Christmas party. Did she really

John Ramsey: Well

Katie Couric: go straight to bed? Did she eat

John Ramsey: Let

Katie Couric: pineapple

John Ramsey: let

Katie Couric: before she

John Ramsey: let

Katie Couric: went to bed?

John Ramsey: let's - let's deal with the facts that I know. The facts are that JonBenet was asleep when we brought her home. We put her to bed. And neither Patsy or I fed her anything because she was asleep. Those are the facts.

As puzzling as those facts are, the motives are even more mysterious. Was something sinister going on in the Ramsey home? Experts disagree on whether JonBenet's body showed signs of prior sexual abuse. And though there've been reports that JonBenet had a problem with bedwetting, it's unclear whether that fact is relevant to the case.

PR: 'I've survived Stage IV ovarian cancer. Life is a very precious commodity to someone who has stared death head-on. I was not competitive with my children. I love my children.'

Katie Couric: Much of the speculation has focused on you, Patsy. That you were somehow involved and that perhaps John helped cover it up. One theory: you felt competitive with JonBenet.

Patsy Ramsey: I've survived Stage IV ovarian cancer. Life is a very precious commodity to someone who has stared death head-on. I was not competitive with (laughs) my children. I love my children.

Katie Couric: Another scenario, Patsy, that you flew into a rage over JonBenet's bedwetting.

Patsy Ramsey: There again - you know, what are your priorities? JonBenet would have an occasional accident. It was nothing to be alarmed at. I didn't care one way or the other. I would not have ever (laughs) - it's just - it's just ludicrous. You can't even - you can't even answer it.

Katie Couric: John, there's disagreement. I guess the - there are people who believe JonBenet was sexually abused prior to her murder, and experts who believe she was not.

John Ramsey: I can tell you as her father that if I even had a minute suspicion that anybody was harming my daughter, I would have been horrified.

Katie Couric: Do you think it's possible even though you had no knowledge that she might have been?

John Ramsey: No.

Patsy Ramsey: Absolutely not.

John Ramsey: We were very close

Patsy Ramsey: Absolutely

John Ramsey: to Jon - I mean, JonBenet - was also a talker. She loved to talk. And - no. There's - there's no way.

Katie Couric: Do you in your hearts believe that this crime will one day be solved?

Patsy Ramsey: Yes, I do.

John Ramsey: I do.

Patsy Ramsey: We've been told that we can find the killer. That's what we're living for.

Katie Couric: And to all those people out there who might remain unconvinced that you had nothing to do with this murder?

John Ramsey: I'm not gonna try to persuade people that I'm innocent. That's not important here. I want people to - to be objective and listen and think. Because that's how this crime's gonna be solved.

Katie Couric: But isn't part of this about salvaging your reputation? I mean, you've

John Ramsey: It's - it's salvaging our family name for the sake of our children, 'cause our children have to live with this a lot longer than we are.

Katie Couric: So it is important that people

Patsy Ramsey: But once

Katie Couric: believe that you did not commit this crime?

Patsy Ramsey: once we find the killer, then - then all that will go away.

Katie Couric: And if you never do?

John Ramsey: It probably's a cloud we'll deal with for the rest of our lives and the rest of our children's lives.